{"id":4121,"date":"2025-02-14T09:57:26","date_gmt":"2025-02-14T08:57:26","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/?p=4121"},"modified":"2025-02-14T09:57:34","modified_gmt":"2025-02-14T08:57:34","slug":"choc-des-savoirs-compte-rendu-daudience-dgesco-du-12-fevrier-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/?p=4121","title":{"rendered":"\u00ab\u00a0Choc des savoirs\u00a0\u00bb : compte rendu d\u2019audience DGESCO du 12 f\u00e9vrier 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"\n
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Audience bilat\u00e9rale SNALC-DGESCO<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pour le SNALC : Jean-R\u00e9mi GIRARD, pr\u00e9sident du SNALC, et S\u00e9bastien VIEILLE, secr\u00e9taire national du SNALC charg\u00e9 de la p\u00e9dagogie<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

LE TH\u00c8ME<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

La DGESCO travaille avec les organisations sur deux chantiers voulus par la ministre :<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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  • Le \u00ab\u00a0parcours renforc\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb en seconde<\/strong><\/li>\n\n\n\n
  • L\u2019\u00e9preuve anticip\u00e9e de math\u00e9matiques<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n

    L\u2019ESSENTIEL<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

    Le \u00ab parcours renforc\u00e9 \u00bb en seconde pourrait \u00eatre pris sur la marge d\u2019autonomie et prendre la forme de l\u2019accompagnement personnalis\u00e9. La DGESCO envisage de proposer ou de rendre ce dispositif obligatoire pour tout \u00e9l\u00e8ve ayant \u00e9chou\u00e9 au DNB, que ce soit en seconde GT ou en seconde professionnelle, au moins pour une partie de l\u2019ann\u00e9e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    L\u2019\u00e9preuve anticip\u00e9e de math\u00e9matiques serait mise en place pour tous les \u00e9l\u00e8ves de premi\u00e8re g\u00e9n\u00e9rale et technologique, avec des sujets distincts (sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9, g\u00e9n\u00e9ral sans sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9, technologique). La volont\u00e9 de la ministre serait de certifier un niveau en math\u00e9matiques, r\u00e9pondant ainsi \u00e0 une \u201cdemande de la soci\u00e9t\u00e9\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

    LE SNALC A INSIST\u00c9 SUR\u2026<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

    Le SNALC n\u2019est pas oppos\u00e9 par principe au parcours renforc\u00e9. Cependant :<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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    • Il ne faut pas ajouter d\u2019autres barrettes en lyc\u00e9e pour mettre en place un dispositif d\u2019aide qui concernera relativement peu d\u2019\u00e9l\u00e8ves.\u00a0<\/li>\n\n\n\n
    • La marge est d\u00e9j\u00e0 utilis\u00e9e pour de nombreuses choses importantes. Si l\u2019on voulait ajouter un dispositif, il faudrait pr\u00e9voir les moyens et ressources n\u00e9cessaires.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
    • Il serait pr\u00e9f\u00e9rable de s\u2019appuyer sur le conseil de classe de troisi\u00e8me plut\u00f4t que sur le DNB.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n

      Le SNALC n\u2019est pas demandeur d\u2019une \u00e9preuve anticip\u00e9e de math\u00e9matiques.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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      • Si les \u00e9l\u00e8ves suivant la sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9 passaient l\u2019\u00e9preuve, ils seraient \u00e9valu\u00e9s plusieurs fois sur les m\u00eames contenus, ce qui n\u2019aurait ni sens ni int\u00e9r\u00eat.<\/li>\n\n\n\n
      • Les professeurs devraient corriger cette \u00e9preuve, l\u2019\u00e9preuve de sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9, tout en participant au grand oral. Certaines disciplines illustrent d\u00e9j\u00e0 la folie d\u2019une telle id\u00e9e\u2026<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n

        L\u2019AVIS DU SNALC<\/h2>\n\n\n\n

        Il est louable de vouloir aider les \u00e9l\u00e8ves en difficult\u00e9, mais le Minist\u00e8re semble vouloir une fois de plus \u00e0 mettre en place un dispositif avec des heures \u00ab magiques \u00bb ; cette fameuse marge dont l\u2019utilisation, selon l\u2019arr\u00eat\u00e9 du 16 juillet 2018, doit \u00eatre d\u00e9termin\u00e9e par le conseil d\u2019administration.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

        Concernant l\u2019\u00e9preuve anticip\u00e9e de math\u00e9matiques, le SNALC per\u00e7oit une mesure d\u2019affichage et un moyen de satisfaire certaines formations du sup\u00e9rieur qui souhaitent recruter sur la base des comp\u00e9tences en math\u00e9matiques.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

        Audience bilat\u00e9rale SNALC-DGESCO Pour le SNALC : Jean-R\u00e9mi GIRARD, pr\u00e9sident du SNALC, et S\u00e9bastien VIEILLE, secr\u00e9taire national du SNALC charg\u00e9 de la p\u00e9dagogie LE TH\u00c8ME La DGESCO travaille avec les […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"set","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-4)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[41],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4121","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-actualites-2024-2025"],"modified_by":"slecourtier","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4121","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4121"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4121\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4122,"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4121\/revisions\/4122"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4121"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4121"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/snalc.org\/snalc2023\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4121"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}